I think you are the biggest name in indie wrestling.

There’s no doubt I am, and that’s not me being … Maybe I have a bit of an ego, but that’s just fact, and that’s because I’m getting myself out there every single weekend. I do the indies that have all the buzz. I do the indies where I go do the show. It’s like the day never existed in my life because I won’t get one tweet about it, but I do those shows. I go overseas. I just got back from Japan. I’m going to Australia. I’m going to England. I’m going everywhere, because I’m not on TV, I’m not on “Raw” or “SmackDown,” any of those AEW shows. I need to push myself, and I have no problem doing that.

Why do you think more people aren’t copying you?

Laziness.

Because I look at you and I’m like, “this looks like a blueprint for success,” and if I was wrestling, I feel like I would just copy you.

I created the blueprint. Over a decade ago, I created the blueprint of how to get over on social media and now, I’m doing it again, how to get over it without a major wrestling company. I mean, it’s no secret. I literally put out podcasts with my tips and tricks. People, they say they want it, but they don’t want it. They don’t want to put in all that work. They don’t want to eat clean. They don’t want to work out hard. They don’t want to miss weekends. They don’t want to miss celebrations or parties or birthdays or weddings. That’s what this business is.

You alluded to the PWI cover, and that’s got to be such a proud moment for you, not just because it’s a big thing in pro wrestling, but you being 100% self-made in that. I mean no disrespect to anyone else who’s on there, but when you have the power of a big company behind you, it’s one thing, but you’ve done that completely on your own. It’s something you should be very proud about there, just to throw that out there, because I feel like if I say, “You’re the biggest name in indie wrestling,” I don’t want people to think I’m a suck-up. I’m saying there’s numbers behind what I’m saying, and a little bit of suck-up, but for the most part, there’s numbers.

Also, listen, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I’m not here. This isn’t my Honky Tonk Man run on the indies, right? I’m not here to pass the torch to the next generation. I got a lot left in the tank. I’m here to light a new torch and carry it for myself. However, if I can help somebody along the way, whether it be in the ring or with getting over or with selling merch, I’m glad to give back, but at the end of the day, it’s about me. I’m my number one focus, and that’s why I’m so driven, because everything is up to me. I’m not relying on anybody else. If something doesn’t take off or something doesn’t succeed, I’m man enough and mature enough to look in the mirror, blame myself, figure out what I can do to adjust that, and move on.